Comments on: Neptune and Uranus Control Grand Minima & Solar Modulation?

By: nicole

nicole — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 22:01:19 +0000

this website should be like wikipedia in the sense where you have a little index so you can read what you want to read and don’t need to read everything else to get to the part you want. you could also see if it is there. all i want to know is what the gravity is like on neptune. i’m not going to read all that for this.

By: VillagePlank

VillagePlank — Sun, 16 Aug 2009 07:52:37 +0000

Interesting read.

I have done some work on mapping solar activity to climate, which can be found here: http://www.netweather.tv/forum/topic/51548-climate-modeling-using-a-leaky-integrator/page__view__findpost__p__1518301

Others, on the same website, have been linking planetary activity to climate, with some success, for a while now, too. Perhaps planetary effects on sun activity is the missing link?

By: Mom2girls

Mom2girls — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:10:12 +0000

What, if any, effect does declination of the planets involved in the conjunction(s), opposition(s), or quincunx(s)?

REPLY: There are some working on this and there is a couple of theories flying around. In the relation to declination according to the Sun’s equator or the solar system barycenter there are some who think the the core is acting link a piston pump with the above and below force coming from the big 4. Also there is the north/south asymmetry where more sunspots can be seen in a certain hemisphere like we see in the north today (only Saturn is below the equator right now) and who knows the same situation could have a contribution or be the driver of the 11 yr cycle itself. I have been looking at that recently and noticing a 6 year pattern and trying to match it up with the Doppler patterns which are about 16 years long in total. If the 6 yr pattern was happening at the Tachocline and then fanning out to form the 16 year pattern (the last 11 yrs is used by sunspots) 2 years later it may be possible and the overlapping ‘V’ patterns would accommodate this, but I am not sure the dates line up just yet….what ever the outcome I think solving the origin of the “V’ pattern will go a long way to solving the 11 year solar cycle mystery.

It is interesting to note on the latest Doppler image that cycle 23 may have lots more years left in it….there is a whole lot more ‘V’ to work with yet.

The conjunction/opposition of Jupiter/Saturn are the main drivers of angular momentum.

By: Daniel Mathis

Daniel Mathis — Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:20:17 +0000

Point here is that it appears that Uranus and Neptune have magnetic poles that at times point towards each other and the Sun… result is at times a catastrophic event will result. When the Solar Wind died in 1999 it appeared that the Earth’s North pole was linked to the Sun and the South Pole was link somewhere in the outer planets…

On June 30, 1908 the inner planets were aligned in the same pattern as the Great Pyramids of Giza(just an observation not not implying there is a connection). Uranus and Neptune were also aligned on opposites sides of the Sun.

A similar alignment occured in early August 9909 BC ..this time including Mars … Neptune and Uranus were on opposit sides of the Sun. Jupiter Saturn were aligned in a cross like configuration with Neptune Uranus and Sun.. very similar to Tunguska alignment. The ingredients were all there.

Another candidate that correlates well with an extinction event approximately 12900 years ago also occurred in early August 12970 years ago. This featured Mercury, Venus, and Earth aligned on the Neptune side… very similiar to Tunguska in many respects.

The magnetic poles of both planets are highly tilted. Uranus pointing almost directly at the Sun on its rotational axis has an erractic magnetic field that at times points directly at the Sun. Neptune with a rotational tilt of about 30 degrees and the magnetic poles aligned 47 degrees off that; however, to the best of my knowledge, the poles rotate and do at times point at the Sun.

There is a reason the ancients associated planetary alignments with catastrohic events.

When someone shows me how to attach jpgs I will do so.

Quote from Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto and how to Observe Them by Richard Schumde, Jr.
“Like Uranus, Neptune’s magnetic field is not aligned with its rotation axis. … instead of polar ones; furthermore, they often point near the Sun. …”

This is a .mov file and I had to download it to play it. It shows how Uranus Poles move around and at time point at the Sun (or the Earth). Uranus’ North Pole points inward. Neptune’s South Pole points inward.

http://www.planetary.org/explore/topics/….ld_art_1990.mov

Voyager Neptune Science Summary
December 20, 1989
Courtesy of: NASA/JPL
Formatted to HTML by Calvin J. Hamilton.

http://www.solarviews.com/eng/vgrnep.htm

“Because Neptune’s magnetic field is so highly tilted, and the timing of the encounter was such that the south magnetic pole was very nearly pointed at the Sun, Voyager 2 flew into the southern cusp of the magnetosphere, providing scientists a unique opportunity to observe this region of a gigantic magnetic field. ”

Kimberlite formation was something I expected based on my theory. I checked for diamond mines and there is on near the location of the Tunguska Event. Mirny Airport (location of the mine) is known as Tunguska Airport.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimberlite

Kimberlite is similiar to a massive fulgurite imo and are caused by Tunguska like impacts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krasnoyarsk_Krai

This is a work in progress, and subject to correction and revision.

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By: Nik

Nik — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:34:44 +0000

Hi, this interesting reference suggests there was no ‘phase catastrophe’ during the Dalton gap, just a very small, weak cycle and very, very few observations…

http://spaceweb.oulu.fi/~kalevi/publications/non-refereed2/ESA_SP477_lostcycle.pdf

Um, I must admit I watch the #23/#24 deep Minimum’s progress with some fascination.
http://www.solarcycle24.com/
and…
http://www.spaceweather.com/

Nik

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By: Paul Vaughan

Paul Vaughan — Sun, 08 Mar 2009 16:59:13 +0000

I’m surprised there has (so far) been no mention of the following articles, which are highly relevant to the central theme of this discussion:

Charvátová, I., 1990a The relations between solar motion and solar variability, Bull. Astr. Inst. Czech., 41, 56-59.
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1990BAICz..41…56C
(Note that the pdf is available – free.)

Charvátová, I., 1988 The solar motion and the variability of solar activity, Adv. Space Res., 8, 7, 147-150.

Very interesting discussion – thank you to all.

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By: Ulric Lyons

Ulric Lyons — Thu, 05 Mar 2009 11:07:28 +0000

Examination of the coldest winters on the Central England Temperature series, including those in the Maunder and Dalton minimums, reveals that later in each of these years, average monthly temperatures regularly reach above average, and often high or near record levels, Very few years stay at depressed temperature levels all year long. This long record clearly shows that what we regard as climatic change, is composed of a string of 1-3 month +ve and -ve temperature features. Sometimes more -ve than +ve, as in the LIA, and sometimes more +ve than -ve, as in recent decades, and in the MWP. These features obviously also range in intensity. At what time of year that they fall is critical to not only yearly average temperature, but also to flood and drought cycles, because of the inverse relationship between temperature and precipitation at summer or winter months. So a grand minimum is a period when, a) frequent and strong enough -ve temperature events occur, caused by a range of extremes of heliocentric planetary configurations, and b) that these occur in N.H. winter months, where they can reduce temperatures by twice as much as would in summer months.
Beyond this, oceanic heat accumulation and loss needs to be considered and factored in.

By: gary gulrud

gary gulrud — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:00:07 +0000

“The Carbon 14 data is off by fifty years compared to the Sunspot data.”

The 14C is produced from Nitrogen high in stratosphere near the poles, peaking near Solar minima.

The peak in life forms follows by 50 years, where’s the problem?

By: David Thomson

David Thomson — Mon, 02 Feb 2009 21:22:16 +0000

With regard to the Sunspot Activity and Carbon 14 graph, what are you trying to show? The Carbon 14 data is off by fifty years compared to the Sunspot data. Are you saying that Carbon 14 temperatures lag Sunspots by fifty years? What could possibly be the mechanism for storing sunspot effects for fifty years and that would later affect Earth temperatures?

REPLY: I am not quite sure of your logic David, there is a lag in the production of carbon 14 that is accounted for in most 14C graphs. Could you explain how you see the 14C data is off by 50 years compared with sunspot data?

By: Edward Morgan

Edward Morgan — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 05:21:48 +0000

I think this is a great piece of work. You have a clear general trend/basis on which to fine tune. The heliocentric planet plots/rings are a little small to read even when enlarged/clicked. Explanation is easy on the reader. Thank-you